Posts by Vernon Williams

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The C word

by ness in

how do your minds work people??.

the word 'cult'.

who is comfortable saying they were raised in a 'cult' or were brainwashed temporarily by a 'cult'?.

Vernon Williams

I thought the "C" word was "Crumpet....."

V

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UN scandal, the defence!!! The Letter to Brant Jones

by whereami in

is this a legit excuse?

is this balanced and fair?

here is the link- http://www.jehovahsjudgment.co.uk/watchtower-un-ngo/appendix_jonesletter.html.

UN scandal, the defence!!! The Letter to Brant Jones

by whereami in

is this a legit excuse?

is this balanced and fair?

here is the link- http://www.jehovahsjudgment.co.uk/watchtower-un-ngo/appendix_jonesletter.html.

Vernon Williams

To All,

In Christ from Monett, MO,

Greetings!

I, personally, know Brant Jones....have for some thirty five years or so. The letters exchanged between Brant and the Society are posted on the internet: I am not sure if the letter posted is one of that series, however, I suspect it is. The guy responding is....well...."ate up."

I have emailed Brant (due to AK Jeff) and I hope this board and Jeff get a letter from Brant: we will see.

I wish there was a public forum where we could engage folks like the one that put Brant's letter on and commented on it. They are such little scoundrals: all brash and cock-sure. Put them in an open debate and let the facts and objective truths grind them and thier little cult defense to crushed pepper.

We will see were this goes.

Been a while since I posted, however, have been keeping track.

Welcome to all the new ones!!

Vernon Williams

Monett, MO: about forty miles West and a bit South of Springfield

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update time

by thebiggestlie in

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friends

ok first of all i want to apologize for not coming in more often and saying hi, i guess im just lazy.

richierich did show me that thread from last week with yall asking about me and i intended to post but i completely forgot and other things got in the way but i do want to say thank you for being so kind and caring.

ok so i had my first elders meeting the other day with the subject at hand as "bad association" seeing that my parents caught me sneaking out to hang with my "worldly" girlfriend and her friends.

Vernon Williams

I agree with RF and Quandry:

Here is what I just post to Lt. Lore:

Look at letter from "Lady of Smiles" and see yourself: broken, sad, regretful....tragic situation: do you want this? Submission and reliance on men is the result of this kind of horrific condition. You are taking the steps to avoid this type of slavery...AND you must begin to construct a foundation for the rest of your life that will give substance and success within the Freedom you are entering into.

Foolish in Freedom is as bad as submitting to bondage.

One of three things take control of our lives:

"circumstances"

other people

or, we take control.

"You have the helm...."

V

I am thankful that, as many have mentioned, you are "putting things together" at such a young age.

Re-actionary responses are, most times, as bad in the opposite direction as those things that caused the re-action.

Go slow, take care, build wisely,

Thoughts of an old man,

V

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I'm 18 and I want my baptism undone.

by LtCmd.Lore in

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i was recently informed that i have the legal right to have my baptism nullified.

but apparently there is a time limit on it.

i have to do this before i turn 19. if i succeed, they will announce at a meeting that i was never a jehovahs witness, and i will not be disfellowshiped or disassociated.. i should also point out that i was baptised at age 9.

Vernon Williams

Look at letter from "Lady of Smiles" and see yourself: broken, sad, regretful....tragic situation: do you want this? Submission and reliance on men is the result of this kind of horrific condition. You are taking the steps to avoid this type of slavery...AND you must begin to construct a foundation for the rest of your life that will give substance and success within the Freedom you are entering into.

Foolish in Freedom is as bad as submitting to bondage.

One of three things take control of our lives:

"circumstances"

other people

or, we take control.

"You have the helm...."

V

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Taking control of my life....this is what i'm gonna do.

by R.F. in

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friends

as many of you may know, i'm currently an ms and pioneer, and been missing meetings consistently for almost 2 months.

i have been concerned about my dad's reaction to me wanting to leave the org and he's been questioning me about missing meetings.

well i've decided now not to jump through the elders' hoops anymore.

Vernon Williams

Just a note of encouragment.

You have, already, Journeyed far and the is a way to go.

I rejoice in your progress...not only for the benefits to you, personally, but to those you assist by word and example.

"God speed....."

Yours in this Struggle,

V

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Back to the topic - I am in love with a JW

by LindaLu in

i have been dating a very committed jw - he spent some time out of the organisation after a divorce and about a year ago has been granted a fellowship again.

i absolutely adore him - and what is there not to love!

he is the most kind, sweet and lovable man i have ever met.

Vernon Williams

Welcome to this site: I know you will enjoy the "company."

There was a young man that was posted a post when I first "came aboard," here, and he had the opposite problem: he was dating a young JW woman.

I told him it was like a Disney movie and he had fallen in love with a "mermaid." I admitted one fact from the illustrations I had seen: the top half is absolutely great, however, it is that "taily" bottom half that presents a problem......

You have fallen in love with a merman: unless you have somending to this story you are.....well.....

screwed. (sorry, I could not come up with another word that is softer....harder...yes.....)

My advice, based on forty years with the JWs: Run. Flee. Abandon Ship. Scoot. Go away.

Gotta go....might comment later...

V

PS: Did I say: "Run like Baptist Hell?....."

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Crumpet withdrawl

by Vernon Williams in

jw
friends

i have not noticed any posts from crumpet.

.

what gives?.

Vernon Williams

Crumpet,

I missed a point or two:

What is your professional goal?

This "exams" are related to what major in school?

Wishing you success in all things,

V

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Just Witnessed at my Door to an Elder and his Wife About Child Molestation

by flipper in

hello all, just had an interesting conversation with a p.o.

elder and his wife who were leaving me a incognito invitation to the "follow the christ" convention.i declined the invitation, but told them i had an associated press article i'd like to leave with them about molestation settlements jw's made outside of court.

i asked if they were aware of this settlement.

Vernon Williams

Flip,

Well done: you made your point and held their attention....good job, bro....

V

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Rutherford's Rainbow

by choosing life in

jw
friends

i was on amazon.com today and noticed that they were selling a collection of rutherford's books on cd.

there was also the watchtower from 1920-1929 and a selection of yearbooks on cd.

they were all being sold under the name of research applications.

Vernon Williams

What is at the end of "Rutherford's Rainbow?"

A pot.....chamber pot.....open lid at your own risk!

V